Not so big fight

Big Fight is one of the most awaited debate events of IIT Madras. The cool thing about it is that it happens between Professors and students (though only from the Civil Engineering Departement).

What follows below is a slightly edited version of the arguments that followed in the civil mail group over the selection of a freshie to participate in Big Fight. And before you start with the mails, here is the list of characters.

student1: fourth year CE student frustrated over the freshie selection
student2: a core group member of the organizing body (all these students are classmates)
student3: one of the five civil studetns who were selected to speak in the BF
student4: another core group member
student5: he had missed to participate in the prelims! poor dude!
student6: yet another core group member
student7: a common student and 1's good friend

Mail 1 (from student 1)

KUDOS to the organizers!!!

This time we have a freshie girl speaking on the topic "The lack of passion towards Civil Engineering among students: Is it due to a similar lack in teachers?"
Lolz!!

Did it not strike to any of the organizers or anyone else that this topic is totally irrelevant for a freshie to speak on.... (or am I the only gifted one??)

Mail 2 (from student 2)

hi student 1,

thanks for the kudos....

sorry to disappoint u, but u are not the only gifted one who had enuf brains to think about the relevance of the topic to a freshie speaker...

the fact is, ther is another huge factor to be be kept in mind :- enthu to participate...
if seniors wer better suited to fire away at that topic,they shud have kept sum time outta their busy schedule and participated in the prelims which wer held last week...5 of the best speakers wer chosen...and it would be unfair not to let the best speaker of the lot to participate just because she's a freshie....

cheers
core members

Mail 3 (from student 3)

This is slightly off the topic but I am slisha curious to know if I was 4th or 5th! Can someone tell me about that?

Mail 4 (from student 2)

These wer the results of the debate held last week

1st: mech-student
2nd: civil-freshie-student
3rd: yet-another-student
4th: student-cum-core
5th: student 3
6th: student-cum-teacher

note:- first place guy is from mech...hence we've chosen 6

Mail 5 (from student 1)

Hi Student 2..

Thanks for enlightening me out of my delusion... But the point I raised was not about the procedure of selection or the enthu for participation or anything else for that matter. My point was that how can someone even imagine a freshie speaking on that topic... If you had decided the topic for Big Fight, you should have kept a minimum elegibility of at least being in 3rd year for speaking on that topic.... or if you didnt want to break freshies' hearts (which you didnt of course) you shoud have chosen some other topic.... Its not that I wanted to malign the organizers or anyone but I thought Big Fight is not like any other debate that one browses the net, finds some points, writes a speach level thing and speaks out. I thought one has to express his/her own ideas there which have developed as a consequence of his/her stay here in the department which a fresher, who has been here for hardly 2 months, wont have of course.

I think I made myself clearer here.

Mail 6 (by student 4)

Hi student 1..

As u said v cud have put a min eligibility of being atleast in 3rd yr.. but then there was just 1 third yr guy who had enthu to participate n 3- fourth yr guys.. so as u can see.. v were short of one participant..
n the topic was decided by Prof who-cares-whoe as a moderator so its not possible to change it.. n who-cares-who wanted a girl in the students' panel.. so with all these constraints v cudnt help but had to take the freshie..

n ya.. u could have put the same enthu in participating tat u r putting to these mails.. then u would be in the panel instead of the freshie :)

Mail 7 (from student 5)

How dare you doubt the capabilities of the freshie nari...you are nothing in front of nari shakthi....watch...without any basis, or background whatsoever she shall wipe away the delusions of you and other chauvinistic pigs...by outperforming all others in the big fight....you can enjoy your PIG fight in your hostel....

If you have any shame left, kill yourself man!!

Mail 8 (from student 6)

Jokes apart!

Dear student 1

As i had briefed u in ur room... it was a decision taken by the core members that whomsoever is interested to participate in the big fight is supposed to undergo a preliminary screening...well... we already thought abt the year based cut off before conducting the prelims...but then there was a huge prob with the 3rd and 4th years...it is the lack of enthu...rather lack of passion...
the participants, in case we had it as an all senior team, would be either only those students who spoke before or there wud be a deprived students team as ppl are not going to turn up ( and yes... that is what has exactly happened )...and a few 3rd and 4th years who were interested(enthu) to participate in the big fight could not take abt half an hour of their time off and participate in the prelims!!

So under those circumstances, we were urged to extend it to the freshies even though they had minimal knowledge abt the current topic. I m sure, the way the "freshie nari" spoke at the prelims, she can atleast make junta feel her presence and voice out her opinions. And i sincerely request u ppl not to crib abt her later even if she remains aloof in the debate and discourage her cuz' she has never seen the level of debating at the big fight...

Regards
Student 6

P.S : I request all the core members not to reply to this thread as everything seems to be in place and is crystal clear!! Thank You

Mail 9 (from student 7)

As student 4 pointed out that who-cares-who wanted a girl in the panel so would it have mattered if every guy in our class would have turned up. its the enthuless girls of our class and 3rd yr who have created the problem for the 'core' members so they had to select a freshie girl. And if the enthuless girls of our class instead of defending the core members so vociferously would have gone to participate we wouldnt have this thread.

And anyway student 1 as they say it "Coords are God", cores are definitely above them so u cant question them.

Mail 10 (from student 1)

As student 7 already hit the nail on the head in the last one... one more request to the people who are already above the gods.... if this is because u wanted to be fair, why did u be unfair to that poor mech guy who turned up with whole hearted enthu, beat everyone in the prelims and then jhhuuussst because he was in mech, he cannnnaaat speak. He is as good as any civil freshie to speak on the topic (and the fact that he topped the prelims).... So pls try to show some more fairness and call that mech guy... otherwise all other branches people will lose faith in CEA and you ppl will be labelled as branchists...

P.S.(student 7) - Still these are not the enthuless girls of our class who are defending the core members.... these two are the core members themselves... see how enthuless girls are.... lolz!!

Mail 11 (from student 7)

I agree with student 1 on this issue. if a freshie girl can speak on this topic i think a mech guy could also do it.

I think that the real reason for kicking him out was our dear student-cum-teacher coming 6th and as he is the third in command in CEA he either used his position or got the benefits of his position and that mech guy was unnecessarily kicked off